Curse

BryanM · Mar 18, 2007, 08:07 PM // 20:07

I think Extend Conditions is still winning.

I think Mantra of Recovery is actually a good mesmer elite, now. Not sure how I feel about their other elites...

Unyielding Aura used to be hilarious fun when I saw it in Random Arenas. And I carried Drain Enchantment. You know, before Glyph of Lesser Energy became almost elite-worthy...

Kashrlyyk · Mar 18, 2007, 09:30 PM // 21:30

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Originally Posted by LazyLink

[skill]Scavenger's Focus[/skill]

At the same level of wilderness survival you get 4 more damage out of kindle arrows (which adds the extra damage no matter what), and Scavenger's Focus costs 5 more energy, AND it takes the elite slot.

Scavenger`s Focus works with every weapon, unlike kindle arrow.

tomcruisejr · Mar 19, 2007, 02:36 AM // 02:36

I used otyugh's cry to level my chars' pets to dire.

......And marksman wager is the most useless skill of them all.

BryanM · Mar 19, 2007, 06:16 AM // 06:16

It beats Archer's Signet to a pulp. It can actually be used for energy gain without a billion points in Expertise - auto attacks for the energy. :/

But yeah, lackluster.

Again with Second Wind: it beats all other "instant" energy gain in raw energy gained after only around 10 exhaustion.

tayos · Mar 19, 2007, 07:13 AM // 07:13

Well, I disagree with alot of things that are said here, and I've got something I'd be booted for spam with, but uh, top of my list has Magehunter Smash (not to be confused with magehunter strike) and Wastrel's Collapse which was more appropriately named Shameful Waste.

Strong disagreement with any commentary against "The Power is yours!" since I play a paragon frequently and Leadership and Energizing Chorus nullify most of the downside of the skill anyhow. And no one ever seems to realize how well Stone Sheath combines with Ward Against Elements if you hadn't noticed yet...

Darth Kukulkan · Mar 19, 2007, 07:34 AM // 07:34

Yes it combines but only on attackers, only on a zone... casters are not affected, like mesmers fo example :x. But I'll try ;p

Wildi · Mar 19, 2007, 11:09 AM // 11:09

skill synergies are weak
Stone Shealth + Ward against Elements < Stand your Ground + Bladeturn Refrain
Stone Shealth + Ward against Elements < Ward Against Harm

l337 nuker · Mar 19, 2007, 11:31 AM // 11:31

Peace and Harmony, anyone?

Shmanka · Mar 19, 2007, 06:07 PM // 18:07

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Originally Posted by l337 nuker

Peace and Harmony, anyone?

That Peace and Harmony/Heal Party spammer in RA is better then 50% of the monks in there. That skill cannot be THAThorrible.

I'd have to agree, marksmans wager is definitely one of the worst out there. I will never see a use for this, ever, competitive or casual its just so restrictive there is no specific environment where this even shines.

chikorita23 · Mar 19, 2007, 11:45 PM // 23:45

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Originally Posted by noocoo

So you just ignore the mod that is "this spell has 20 sec cool down if it hits on the target foe whose health is less than 33%" and call it the best smiting spike elite?

Well, signet judgment + mantra of inscription is much better.

Because a real smiter wouldn't just click WoC so blindless... and even if WoC has conditional longer recharge so?

If you browse smiting skill list... you do realize there are spear of light, banish and other smiting spell which u can combine with WoC right?

Just like air spiker u don't just blindly clip ur elite spell without other skills.

WoC easily combine with banish, smite, spear of light, or even bane signet. U don't even need mesmer or any other 2nd profession's support to boost or fast recharge the elite itself.

I'm not saying I don't like Signet of Judgement, it's just WoC are far away from being useless.

I'd also wanna comment on one of the post about Air elite Gust! Gust is very tricky to use...but if u use it right it's one of the best air elite!! What I do is using a cheap water hex such as Rust + Gust + Fetid Ground. It work nicely in both pve and pvp! (its fun too!)

l337 nuker · Mar 20, 2007, 01:39 AM // 01:39

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Originally Posted by Shmanka

That Peace and Harmony/Heal Party spammer in RA is better then 50% of the monks in there. That skill cannot be THAThorrible.

I'd have to agree, marksmans wager is definitely one of the worst out there. I will never see a use for this, ever, competitive or casual its just so restrictive there is no specific environment where this even shines.

Well, I suppose Peace and Harmony can have its uses. I was on the Venta Cemetery mission and the other monk in the party was using Peace and Harmony on Olias (Who was set up for MM) and it seemed his combat mode was set to "avoid combat".

But seriously, a paltry +1 energy regeneration? I once saw this monk who kept using PaH on Koss...who of course was set to "attack".

Moral of the story? SET YOUR HEROES TO AVOID COMBAT BEFORE USING IT ON THEM

Your Lucky I Heal · Mar 20, 2007, 03:27 AM // 03:27

Worst skill is Vengeance. I don't even think it counts as a rez. Total nub skill ever.

Tobias Funke · Mar 20, 2007, 04:20 AM // 04:20

Worst skill has to be scavenger's focus. Other bad skills can be played around with to get some convoluted use out of them, however mediocre it may be. SV is the worst not because it's doesn't do anything, but because for every conceivable use for it, there's another skill that does the same thing but better and isn't an elite. Hence there is no possible situation where you would ever take it as your elite, making it completely useless.

GalaKnight · Mar 20, 2007, 04:27 AM // 04:27

Uh, Unknown Siege Wurm Elite duh.

BryanM · Mar 20, 2007, 04:41 AM // 04:41

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Originally Posted by Your Lucky I Heal

Worst skill is Vengeance. I don't even think it counts as a rez. Total nub skill ever.

More like total awesome skill.

Alt F Four · Mar 20, 2007, 09:43 AM // 09:43

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Originally Posted by firekil

I can't believe nobody mentioned Signet Of Agony. Its like a much worse version of chillblains.

Sacrifice 10% maximum health and suffer from bleeding for 25 seconds. All nearby foes take 10...37 damage.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Signet_of_Agony

Except for the fact that's the only way a Necromancer can get ahold of Bleeding to transfer, if my memory serves me. And look at the cast time. I remember it was abused for something back in the day, but I forget.

And to the people who are bashing Scavenger's Focus, I'm fairly sure that it's + damage, which ignores armor.

ZenRgy · Mar 20, 2007, 11:32 AM // 11:32

Regardless of armour ignoring damage, it blows - why waste your elite for a damage prep? That's conditional.

Oh yeah, this is the most useless skill [skill]Eviscerate[/skill] needs a major buff, it's so stupid.

Raxxman · Mar 20, 2007, 01:07 PM // 13:07

eh? deep wound + damage = 100+ equiv in a single blow.

l337 nuker · Mar 20, 2007, 01:21 PM // 13:21

In addition to [card]Peace and Harmony[/card], I must agree with the OP that [card]"The Power Is Yours!"[/card] is pretty bad as well.

Think about it. If a support Paragon wishes to use that skill with Nukers, he would need 4 shouts of "The Power Is Yours!" at 12 Motivation to sustain 1 Rodgort's Invocation, assuming the nukers were at 0 energy.

And in the meantime, -10 energy degeneration? Come on, if you absolutely HAVE to use that skill then use it at 0 energy.

Franco Power · Mar 20, 2007, 01:32 PM // 13:32

[skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill]
[skill]Burning Arrow[/skill]
[skill]Eviscerate[/skill]
[skill]Mantra Of Recovery[/skill]
[skill]Icy Shackles[/skill]
[skill]Spoil Victor[/skill]

[skill]Shadow Prison[/skill]
[skill]Weapon of Remedy[/skill]

[skill]Crippling Anthem[/skill]
[skill]Avatar Of Grenth[/skill]

Those are the worst skills ever in GW!!